Danmachi Season 4 Episode 11 Review Without Spoilers



Dungeon ni deai wo motomeru no wa machigatteiru darou ka iv episode-11 Review



Ryu Surpasses Herself And Bell Surpasses Her

Ryu fighting the Juggernaut after Bell's injury show just how scared she is of losing people, her fear of losing Bell and even Bors is greater than her fear of death. When Ryu thought she was done for she was glad to die. She's been living with the guilt of surviving all this time.

I think the reason she froze the last episode is because of the fear of having to relive losing her comrades again not fear of dying at the hands of the Juggernaut. I believe that's why she is fighting so hard to protect others in a battle she knows she cannot win.

Another way I see it is that as Aisha pointed out earlier in season 4 Bell's not just pulling people along he's growing stronger with them pulling out the best in them. After seeing Bell take on the Juggernaut Ryu grows beyond her fear.

Ryu's adaptability may have been helped by watching Bell take on the Juggernaut. Against the Lambton, she was able to quickly figure out its movement patterns based on Jura's commands. An adventurer as astute as Ryu could gain the ability to read the Juggernaut after watching it battle just once. 


Ryu said the Juggernaut is too strong which I found symbolic and shows just how far Bell has gone. Ryu was the one who explained to Bell that the way to level up was by impressing the gods by defeating a stronger opponent with a team or tactics or something. After Ryu's main weapon is destroyed she switches to close combat knives even with all her swords. She planned on beating the Juggernaut at close range.


Bell did exactly what Ryu thought could not be done he fought the Juggernaut by getting in close with head on tactics.



Can The Juggernaut Be Defeated OR Not

Bell's fight with the Juggernaut had me frozen in my chair I acted like the Loki Familia watching him take on the minotaur. During the fight, the Juggernaut screamed in pain and even backed off when it got hurt but it does not have a magic stone plus it acted scared of Bell's Argo Vesta.


 Bell believes the reason it survived his epic Argo Vesta is that he did not charge it long enough. I am half and half because the Juggernaut has shown survival behaviour but by the definition of its name, it cannot be stopped. After the Bell and Ryu were swallowed the Juggernaut followed them, the strongest adventurers in the vicinity. 

The only way to stop something that cannot be stopped is with a stoppage mechanism built. Ouranos kept it secret to avoid panic, imagine it reaching the surface. What if it cannot go too far from where it was summoned maybe Ryu and Bell will have to go deeper into the dungeon than they already have.

Because the Juggernaut is a spawn from the dungeon taking too much damage maybe as the dungeon heals the dungeon sees no need for the Juggernaut and it fades into dust. 

Ouranos said in response to the Juggernaut spawning that by the time they act it will be too late. 

 Does that mean it has a time limit?

There's no point acting because by the time they do the damage would have been done. If it were a constant threat they would have to have sent someone eventually.

Because the Juggernaut has displayed survival behaviour maybe like the dungeon it's built to take on a certain amount of damage and it can be defeated when that threshold has been reached.

What happened to the previous juggernaut?


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Argo Tempest And Questions

 Because the Hestia knife is connected to Bell maybe it only works with his magic but what if he could use it with other magic?

I think that at some point bell will use Argo vesta with other magic it would be really cool if he used it with Ais's magic in a team up, Bete can do it.

 Marie/Marie communicating with Bell, do mermaids have telepathy?

Final Thoughts

This season has shown the brutality of the dungeon like none before. Cassandra's prophecy is still looming even though parts of it have been dispelled. No doubt they are going to be glad they saved a Harihume level boost. I'm seriously wondering who will gain the most Excelia after all of this besides bell, the stuff adventurers have to go through to level up is no joke. 

Jura's death came as no surprise he fell into the secret identity trope. The trope is simple if a character knows or finds out the secret identity of a hero and may use it against them they die. All the characters namely Bors who survive this will not use Ryu's identity as Gale Wind against her. The ending we got showed two cuts to the Lambton where Bell had probably slashed it from the inside and heavily injured Ryu and Bell. And we know the Juggernaut followed them. After this, if I was Bell, the Hestia Familia or any other adventurer involved I would probably never want to enter the dungeon again. 

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Danmachi Season 4 Episode 9 Review No Spoilers




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Plot devices

 I have mixed feelings about the plot devices used in this episode,  the use of Cassandra's prophecies was well done but I am not sure about how I feel about Ryu and Jura's full circle.

This is the third and probably final time the episode has started with Cassandra's prophecy and I must say the build up was worth it, in hindsight this gave me the perception that the prophecy had been stopped completely by everyone not going to the 27th floor. Jura straight tells us that it does not matter because the dungeon sees the 27th floor and some of the floors above it as one.  Jura explaining his plan and admitting he set up Ryu is like the bond villain explaining his plan for world domination instead of killing Bond quickly. It's a way of giving him the necessary information and getting us the audience some closure, wrapping things up when the villain thinks they've won. 

Dix did a fantastic job of making us hate him with his sadistic monologue. In Jura's case I don't hate him I feel a little sorry for him. Jura's monologue made Bell visibly angry at how he set up Ryu and Ryu was provoked into attacking him when he threatened to have Bell eaten first. The reactions to Jura's monologue tells us it's part of his strategy so he gets to inform the audience and give vital information about Ryu's clearance and the plot without leaving us asking why is he telling them. 

Ryu is translated as saying "Quit trying to drag this out with your bullcrap" to Jura. I thought he was trying to wear them down until the bombs were set off and then his seemingly overly long and informative monologue made sense.  

Ryu blamed her temper for bad judgement which given Jura's ability to push the specific buttons is slightly understandable. When Jura finally said I've summoned despair the prophecy twist did not surprise me it did not hit as hard as I believe it should have.

Overall setting up necessary plot devices is hard and I know the anime is far less detailed than the light novel so I'll give the aforementioned plot devices a 7.5 out of ten because they felt rushed but organic enough.



Monster Slaves

 A magic item that makes slaves of monsters tells us about the economics of capturing and selling monsters they could be exploited sexually if they could be controlled, even by people without the gods blessings. I wonder if those could work on Xenos? Dix would have had them if he did not use them on the Xenos they must not work on them perhaps that's why he used a curse instead?



Death Of Gale Wind

Ryu was very cryptic for the sake of the plot. Had Bell not been there would she have killed Jura? I feel as though the twist was slightly forced, Ryu was upfront with Bell about what she had done because of the circumstances of her Familia's demise so her being all cryptic when Bell believed in her so easily comes off as a way to add a twist that I think could have been more effectively justified. From Ryu's perspective maybe she anticipated being misunderstood and did not explain herself more quickly due to a deep fear that Bell someone she cares about would not understand and not believe her. She looked completely shocked when Bell said" Ms Ryu said she didn't kill anyone".  "And I'm going to believe that."

Ryu never had any intention of cutting Bell down, she was trying to scare him off. Bell referring to her as Ms Ryu and not gale wind shows how he sees her, to him she's Ms Ryu, not the murderer's Gale wind that others see her as.


To go further when Bell is calling out Jura he tells him he's pretty sure his wounds are from a long time ago back when (Gale Wind) hunted him down.

I think that this is that Bell's wording is intentional and that Bell will save Ryu in the upcoming episodes I think he will be her hero and save her from her darkness. I believe that this is the death of Gale wind. It's pretty obvious that the thing that's coming is something that was strong enough to play a part in wiping out Ryu's Familia and that she does not think they can beat it. I am guessing Alise was an old comrade Ryu could not save.

 For Ryu to try to get Bell to leave and survive saying "At the very least you have to escape! Get out of here!"  Is her showing just how much she cares she is as feels as close to Bell as she did to her Familia, he is probably the closest she has felt to someone since Alise.



Content Idea And Skills
As an anime only I heard a little about the skill's in Danmachi from youtube videos but this episode gave me an idea for content I will probably reveal later. Long story short I did a bit of research on  Skills and some character stats. I do not want any unnecessary spoilers.

Bell's ability to read people is remarkable. He saw through Turk and Jura. He deduced that Jura's wounds were from a long time ago. I may be over estimating him perhaps the anime is making him more competent than he is in the light novel. During the fight with the Lambton, we get to see Bell's experience. Both Aisha and Ryu had experience fighting the Lambton and took the lead in determining the strategy. Aisha was able to figure out where the Lambton would attack from when it was underground. She figured it out or sensed it where Harihume could not even with her ears. Aisha also told us the Lambton would go underground if it sensed magic. Ryu: "This isn't my first fight with a Lambton. I should be able to win". Both Aisha and Ryu used similar tactics restricting the Lambton's movement and ending it with magic. In my research, I looked into the hunter skill that I had heard about. 
Hunter (狩人): Hunter improves abilities against monsters Ryuu has fought before and gained excelia from.
Aisha and Ryu have the hunter skill is that how Aisha was able to sense the underground Lambton and why Ryu's magic was so effective?



Danmachi Season 4 Episode 8 No Spoilers

 




Danmachi Season 4 Episode 8 Spoiler Free Review

Prophecy Through Whos Eyes?

Cassandra's prophecy starts an episode once again but this time with some clarity. As she's talking about the prophecy we are shown exactly who she is referring to. But some who are not in the prophecy are Cassandra, Bell and Ryu. Does this mean that this prophecy happens without Bell and Ryu being there? Cassandra with her hands in a praying position thinks to herself that none of "None of the horrors that I saw will come to pass as long as we avoid going down to the 27th  floor". 

It sounds like a very bad death flag not that I think anyone will die, another way of phrasing may be that all of those horrors will happen if they go to the 27th floor, with or without Bell. 


 Cassandra not being in her prophecies is likely the limit of her foresight, or perhaps part of her limiting ability to change them. If she played some part in them perhaps she could prevent them by changing her actions alone. 

The perspective of Cassandra's prophecy is very red but I had an interesting thought. Throughout episode 8 we are shown a red-eyed monster.  What if we are seeing Cassandra's prophecy through the eyes of that monster?



Ryu's Freedom And Prophecy Role

In the very first episode of season 1, I noticed something about the world of Danmachi, and that thing was that adventurers are the only ones who can police adventurers. What Ryu did was not Black and White, and I think this episode wanted us to understand that. The adventurers are not all in agreement about the morality of Ryu's actions. When Bors sees Ryu he remembers her from the Battle against the Goliath and I think this is a key point.  He may figure out that Turk is lying and secondly considering that Ryu's actions helped to save his life and everyone who fought against the Goliath he will probably decide not to capture Ryu if the opportunity presents itself. What Ryu did was not black and white however if other adventurers understand where she was coming from and choose not to pursue her as a matter of principle she's effectively a free fugitive.

As an adventurer said Ryu anyone connected with Evilus even if those connections were iffy. Ryu made it clear she wants Bell to leave and that he's better off not knowing. For all we know, those connections were not iffy at all and Ryuis was privy to information that most are not. All though I think Ryu is a killer who will kill again I think that everyone she's murdered probably had it coming.

Ryu said she cannot cut down the fiend with Bell there and then tells him she will not hesitate to cut him down. She also said why is Bell here when she first saw him and the before the threat why is he always getting in the way. Bell is pure when Ais was training him in the manga she knocked him out because of the calming effect resting him on her lap had over her. Ryu is probably sensing herself being more docile around Bell and that's why she is upset that it had to be him. Her threat of cutting him down is the only card she has left if all else fails she believes she can best him in combat. I don't believe she will do it because Ryu does not kill innocents, I think the monster Marie said was not supposed to be here will show up and Ryu will risk herself for Bell. I suspect the monster will have tunnelled its way from a lower floor or has been realised by Evilus in response to Ryu. I think it is a level 5 monster and responsible for Cassandra's prophecy. The response to Ryu, not Ryu herself is the cause of the prophecy.

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Side Note

She's angry green and hops away Ryu is a hulk.


Hindsight Will Tell Us How Well The Plot Was Put Together

We get an answer as to why Bell wanted Aisha to stay, to keep an eye on Turk. In the last episode, Aisha wasn't sure if Bell could handle Ryu. Bell was so rattled by what Ryu had done that he dropped a potion. I imagine Bell being out of potions is a sign of desperate times ahead. Marie's singing seemed like a very convenient plot device. The only person who knew it was her was Bell and if anyone else had found her there would be trouble.  Hopefully, she will play a part in future episodes that will justify her presence or maybe she is where she is because of the monster who should not be there. To try to fill a potential plot hole, Marie could be so rattled y the monster that she is self-soothing by singing.

If she were to play a part I think it will be as a healer. 



Bell Becoming His Own Fighter

Is the Goliath Robe made from a goliath? Maybe I'm stating the obvious, I assume if so it's as strong as the level so a level 5 goliath Robe will be as strong as a level 5 goliath. I suspect that it will save Bell's life based on Cassandra's insistence. What I want to see from Bell is more adaptability with weapons. Bell adapting to using the Goliath Robe as soon as he got it is a good sign. Going back to his fight with the minotaur, I remember when Bell took its weapon one of the Loki Familia pointed out he was bad at using it. Bell has levelled up so quickly is easy to forget how new he is to adventuring. With someone like Mikoto in his Familia who has many techniques and a master of many weapons, it would be great to see Bell develop a greater diverse arsenal and the goliath robe could be the first step.

 When Ais trained Bell she wanted him to surpass her expectations in terms of fighting style. Now that Bell's goal will force him to go past her he is doing just that first the Hestia knife and now thinking of new ways to use the Goliath robe.
What does future Bell's fighting style look like to you?


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Mother Earth Father Sky

A great disaster cometh. Do not approach it, for it is the embodiment of ruin. Do not touch it, for it is the oracle of death. A mother's lament shall invoke calamity as the newborn wails of despair resound. The fairy who is sworn to be an usher of doom shall drag the surging white flames into severe plight. Take heed. It is a banquet of tragedy. 

I want to talk a little bit about the words of Cassandra's prophecy. ''A mother's lament shall invoke calamity''. The mother is probably the dungeon itself it has been described as a mother before. I was thinking about who the natural enemy of the gods are in mythology and particularly greek mythology because of Zeus and Hera's significance to the story. The natural enemy of the gods was the titans maybe the dungeon is some incarnation of a titan. Or perhaps at the core is mother Gaia but speculation, speculation. If Quranos is the god of the sky the dungeon's source must be a god or titan of the earth, it has to be something divine something with limitless supplies of power. 

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Character Detail Or Perv Appeal

Cassandra was sleeping naked, this could just be fanservice or maybe more to do with her state of mind. As Miach put it Cassandra is constantly burdened by the unknowns of the lower world in this episode we learned even in her sleep and she woke up sweating. Cassandra going to sleep naked or removing her clothes while sleeping because of how vivid her premonitions are could be about the anime showing us how plagued she is by her visions they are not enjoyable for her. 



In most of the dungeon, you have to be on high alert all the time for Cassandra to sleep naked may show how safe she felt before her premonition.  Bell's presence may make her feel safe enough to go to sleep vulnerable. Naza vocalises that Cassandra is always bothered by something but there are times she has a glowing smile and for example, that is when Bell is around. 



Lady Fortune And Lady Luck

I think this is the first time that Cassandra's prophecies have been directly acknowledged by characters the first time we have gotten an explanation. To me, there is still a lot of mystery in the origins of her prophecies. Finn has his thump which is the closest we have seen to Cassandra's prophecies. Key difference everybody believes and trusts Finn. Are Cassandra's visions a status skill that can be seen in status or something else? Can Miach tell because of status or is it because he is a god? Hestia noticed something about her so maybe the specifics are in the status, if so why did Apollo not listen to her vision about Bell? 

Bell has shown himself on several occasions to be able to change Cassandra's visions and even give them some merit. Casandra influenced the group into allowing Bell to go further down the dungeon solo seemingly avoiding Cassandra's vision. Is this the first time this has happened? 


Luck and fortune are closely related perhaps Bell's luck skill allows him to change his and his comrade's fortunes for the better and somehow believe Cassandra. In this very episode, Casandra thought maybe Bell would. 

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Daphne chose to agree that they should not go any further down when Cassandra did not expect her to Welf making Bell goliath scarf and Aisha not goign down any further, all reasons given made sense to their characters but it seems like a big coincidence, I think Bell's luck was at play and without him there Cassandra would not be able to stop her vision.

We are left in the dark about how Bell convinces Aisha to stay with the rest of the group, maybe it's so they can get back safely.



How Strong is Ryu?

80 million valis for Ryu considering how many low-class adventurers would have to split the proceeds is not worth the risk. The sheer number tells you just how strong of a level 4 Ryu is if an adventurer is strong enough to collect her themselves they would you would if you are as greedy as Bors you would not tell anyone unless you had to.

Level 4 adventurers are rare and level 5's are rarer still right now the strongest adventurer who has wind of Ryu's bounty and in the dungeon is Bell. Ryu was the last one standing against Asterius. Bors tells us that the rumours are that Gale Wind is top class even among Level 4s and that means Rabbit Foot is their ace in the hole.

Aisha tells Bell that she does not think he can handle Ryu alone, Bell replies he's putting his faith in Ms Ryu to which Aisha retorts "your funeral". 

I am not sure Ryu is stronger than Bell and, Bell is no ordinary fledgling level 4 he is the equivalent of peak level 4 strong and most likely level 5 strong. I think Aisha may mean that Bell's naivety may get the better of him and the Ryu he knew is not the one he will find.


I have a semi-random question that the anime only's may want to have a crack at answering. When Bell gets his next update how many status points will he have accumulated?

Bell was able to gain 600 points in three days at level 1 before he got the Hestia knife. If he ever slows down it would be at level 5, it took Ais three years to level 6. I'm gonna go big and say 3000 overall this looks like a big adventure and Bell has more motive to get stronger than in previous seasons.


Misdirection Keeps The investigation Interesting

Before I read the comments of my last critique I was not sure that it was the real Ryu. Episode 7 has done a fantastic job directing and misdirecting me and probably the anime-only audience in general. The animation team has made sure to show us how angry Ryu is. So far I don't think Ryu has done anything irredeemable, I think this is more about Bell trying to save Ryu from herself. Turk is lying about the first time he saw Ryu because he didn't recognise her from the Goliath event. Someone must have informed Turk about the adventurer known as gale wind, Ryu must know something that he and who Turk gets orders from above him want to die with her that's probably why he's so gung ho on seeing her dead murder is the best justification for murder.

Ryu is not an indiscriminate killer she's ways the thin line between Justice a question that has plagued me for years is the definitive difference between justice and revenge. It's a big question but if anyone feels free to chime in. ?

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Danmachi Season 4 Episode 6 Review No Spoilers

 


Danmachi Season 4 Episode 6 Review No Spoilers 

Episode 6 begins with Bell and Lilli starting off in what looks like a hotel on the 18th floor. It's scenes like this that make me wonder who exactly is the dungeon is it specifically made for adventurers? Is it somehow made to produce or perhaps find heroes and give them just enough breathing room? Maybe all the floors are to prepare a hero or heroes for what is at the bottom. 





Slice Of Life

The last few episodes have all been about growth and how much more reliable Bell has become this episode does a good job of grounding Bell's character. Lilli expresses the fear that with bell becoming stronger and after the Xenos incident he may be pulling away from them but that's not true. Season 4 has gone out of its way to make the relationship between Bell and Lilli special when he was attacked by the Iguazu Lilli seemed to sense it when Bell returned from the lower floors the first name he called was Lilli when he was dragged into the water Lilli tried to go after him and in this episode after Lilli's stalking they spoke until sunrise. Lilli was Bell's first comrade and she's also like an anchor his relationship with her is like proof he is who he was at the beginning because they've known each other the longest. 

Bell would never change enough to leave his comrades so if Freya were to influence him it may be by threatening them if he does not join her or even further her Familia.

Dormul and Luvis have promised to help Bell in the future if he needs them. For bell to free the Xenos not only must he be strong he must also be respected and to do that he needs a strong character, which he has. If Little Rookie or should I say Rabbit Foot say the Xenos are Ok then maybe they are.


Meeting of the Gods Denatus

 I like the name absolute shadow I think it suits Mikoto and her ninja/ kunoichi, does anyone else see think it's a good name?

The meeting of the gods was very short for the episode but I think it may be a crucial moment for season 4 and beyond. Bell has ranked up twice since he got the name little rookie and the gods are openly talking about it. mortals cannot lie to gods but gods can lie to gods, when Freya is asked if she recently took an interest in Little Rookie she tells a lie that we the audience know is a lie she claims to only have taken an interest in him since his fight with Asterius. The fight she prevented the Loki Familia from interfering in. 

Almost everything Freya has done for Bell up until now is a complete secret, she got a grimoire to him helped him level up and overcome his fear of minotaurs and did other things behind the scenes.

Freya suggesting the name Vanadis Odr (Husband Of Freya) is not just a joke it's her openly marking her territory, she is no longer concerned if the other gods are aware of her interest in Bell. I believe that Freya is likely to be more open about her interest in Bell this season. This is a big risk, in swords Oratoria I believe or maybe in season 1 of the main series or both Loki expressed she would be happy about Freya taking an interest in any of her children, especially Ais. The Freya Familia is powerful but if the other gods were to feat her taking a liking to any of their children they may all turn against her. Perhaps Freya is worried that others may take an interest in Bell like Appolo did so she is warning them off now.

In the meeting, the other gods noticed Freya was angry at their ridiculous names they know her well enough to know when she's angry when smiling and they know to pay attention to her anger to respect her anger somewhat. There are two or three ways for us anime only's to interpret this one, she is angry at any other suggestions for Bell's name other than her husband, two she is angry about the ridiculousness of the names because it means they are mocking Bell and her open feelings towards or three both.



Loki is a lot smarter than she seems and she is the trickster god I noticed that in the Orotoria anime and manga and Riveria states so.  Loki is the one who started challenging Freya's naming idea for Bell first. Why did she do that, was it simply to throw a spanner in the works for Freya even though she does not know exactly what she is up to?

It was the Freya Familia that stopped the Loki Familia from fighting Asterius so Loki already knew that Freya was interested in Bell and had been at the meeting they had with Ais and Ottar as escorts in season 1. 

When ottar held up the Loki Familia in season 1 to stop them from getting to Bell against the minotaur and again last season against the same minotaur the situations never resulted in extended violence. Finn's line in Oratoria to Ottar asking if his actions were the will of his god and if he wished to provoke an all out war between their Familia springs to mind, Ottar said no. Being the most powerful factions they run the risk of mutually assured destruction and they know it so the battle between the gods is far more subtle. Only Loki is powerful enough to anger Freya without risking getting wiped out look what happened to Ishtar. Perhaps Ais and Bell's relationship increases the odds of violence between the factions. Ais could not be seen to help Bell during the war games because of the danger of making enemies for her Familia so I doubt she'd do anything openly but Freya is the jealous type, she did have Ais attacked once but at that time Loki and Ais would not have been able to see the connection.

The name Loki suggested was Loizarus (Trickster's toy), something Loki can use to play with Freya and her emotions. that's exactly what she did in the meeting, Loki is very very smart.



Ryu Not Herself Literally?

The Ryu looking like a killer seemed very much like a trope the red in her eyes either means she's under mind control or it's some kind of an imitation. Ryu has shown herself to regret her past errors of seeking revenge for her comrades. I think her looking like a killer is her being framed if Revis can disguise herself so can others maybe it's some kind of magic item. Whoever did it know enough about Ryu to know when to time their actions so she has no alibi and knows who she is. We also don't hear her Ryu or not Ryu talk so we do not know if the voice is being imitated.  When the scene played of the man who said he saw Ryu the image was fuzzy like an old VHS, this could be evidence of memory manipulation.

The key point I took away was that the man that was killed was a trader, he must have dealt with some merchandise that his killer was interested in or the killer thought he had information on some merchandise she wants. I am seriously interested in what the man traded in.

Without giving away any spoiler feel free to way in maybe me thinking it's a trope is me falling for a double bluff.


Danmachi Season 4 Episode 5 Review No Spoilers



Danmachi Season 4 Episode 5 Review No Spoilers 

In this review, I am going to talk about growth and potential growth again, wasted potential and I am going to try something at the end. 

Episode 4 was the first showing us the Hestia Familia and episode five wrapped it up. These two episodes not only showed us their growth but maybe another glimpse into how they will grow in the future. 


Hestia Familia Potential Growth And Growth Ideas



Harihume

Harihume's magic multiplies the magic she can already use so she can now rank up multiple targets. Harihume told Aisha it would take years for her to learn another magic and we know she's never going to be a fighter. Harihume's path to growth will probably be about increasing her magic power and maybe a rank up. When she used her magic she only had 5 tails like Kurama from Naruto and Ninetales from pokemon because these folk laws tend to have the same origin I guess that Harihume will work to increase her magic to nine people and she will generate nine tails. 





Welf

We learned in season one that part of the reason Welf does not like magic swords is that they break.  After seeing Bell's Argonaut Vesta I had a thought. When they saw rare coral Welf wanted to use it to make weapons and when Bell defeated the goliath using his Argonaut skill the weapon broke even though it came from a level 6 enemy Ais defeated. What if the reason Welf magic weapons break is because of the material? I  think Welf will learn something from the blade that Hephaestus made. Not only was his weapon not strong enough to get through the Moss Huge's Udine cloth but it broke to boot. I think this will push him to grow in a way that will lead to expensively made magic swords that are more powerful and can handle being more powerful so they will not break.



Mikoto 

Her growth seems to be down the path of greater technique after the last episode she showed herself to not only be able to learn techniques but create them I imagine she will devise more techniques and skills in the future. Even with a rank up, Mikoto was caught off guard by a monster immediately after being healed, lack of awareness a mental lapse. She's able to sense monsters and allies her senses are keener than anyone else. Mikoto was the one to articulate how sometimes when she experiences a rank up her senses cannot fully process her bodies strength. She's more aware of her senses than anyone else, I think she may develop a defensive sense that can be used in battle because she was caught off guard and will be inspired by witnessing what bell did when his body and senses aligned. A smaller version of her ability to sense monsters and allies in the versatility that acts like a spidey sense, perceptive to all movement.

Lilli

Lilli's growth is as a person people don't follow strategy they follow leaders. Lilli openly stated that she knows the level-headed thing to do but would choose to do what bell the fool would do. Lilli is a great strategist, part of the reason they ended up in dire straits is that Lilli underestimated the Moss Huge, which is the same as underestimating the dungeon. She said something like monsters cannot cause Pass parades and monsters don't set traps. I think Lilli will become more determined to leave everyone around and will increase her knowledge as a strategist and develop strategies to try to accomplish that. She will be more prepared for what the dungeon is capable of.




Bell's Potential Growth And Current Strength Estimate


Current Bell Strength Assessment

Because of Bell's ability to go beyond the limits of his Status his exact strength is a curious subject. Before Bell was washed into a lower part of the dungeon Aisha admitted that Bell was stronger than her and that he was as strong as a mid level adventurer and his speed was up there with the best of them, level four adventurers I think she meant.

The explanation Mikoto gave for Bell not having a full grasp of his level 4 abilities made sense and is consistent with the story, I don't know if anyone here watched the  Sword Oratoria anime. If you did when Ais became a level 6 she adjusted her mind to her knew strength by single handedly wiping out hoards of monsters. 



Aisha could arguably have suffered from the same with the rank up and also because her stats at level 4 are not high enough for her to rank up to level 5 she's not an equivalent to level 5. So her fight with the Moss Huge may not be the same as if another level 5 adventurer had fought it so we cannot say for sure Moss Huge is stronger than your typical level 5 adventurer. When Aisha clashed with the Moss Huge she was pushed back but Bell held his own with a knife when they clashed and then pushed it back, that feat requires far more strength than a broad sword.


Aisha assessed bells strength before he was acclimated with his strength so here are my current estimates based on his feats up to season 4 episode 5. 

Agility 

When Bell was level 3 Dix mentioned that Bell didn't move like a level 3 he probably meant he was a whole level higher. I think the current anime Bell is the equivalent of a mid-level 5 in terms of speed. 

For strength dexterity and endurance I think Bel is a low level 5 and for magic a pinnacle level 4 although it is hard to estimate because he combines firebolt with argonaut and firebolt is a short chant it's hard to know how large Bell's raw magic reserves are.



Growth Hints

Bell Dual Wielding is likely to be a thing again. He did say that he was trying to get used to his new weapon so maybe that's why he used one blade in the situation like the attack from multiple fast enemies on the lower floor.


After fighting the Moss and being sent lower in the dungeon Bell took a potion to recover his stamina immediately. In this episode after having to make the journey back up and using firebolt with Argonaut Bell did not look tired but Lilli gave him a potion to recover his stamina. Not a scratch on him either time so this is purely a stamina issue. Even after the potion during the fight with the Moss  Lilli says a prolonged fight won't be good for him because his stamina and magic power are not at their fullest. 

I think for Bell's growth he must increase his stamina and go lower into the dungeon on his own. The growth he got just from going lower into the dungeon solo was immense. Although I think it's a necessity I don't think Bell would do it willingly because of the danger it would put the team in and Bell made a promise to get stronger together. But as we saw last episode stuff happens. Down the line, I think it would be symbolic if Bell were to become a level 6 by defeating the Udeaus Solo as Ais did. 


I am a little curious as to how potions work do they recover a certain amount of HP and MP the more MP or HP you have the more potions you have to take to recover to your maximum. Has Bell grown so strong they no longer benefit him as much at least percentage wise? 

And what are your estimates of Bell's current anime strength?



Moss Huge Wasted Potential Up In Smoke

I think the Moss huge was an incredible villain, when it went down I felt all its potential had gone with it. I was left feeling like it was over the hero's win but I should have been left with the feeling of fear that another enhanced species like it may emerge. We only got a few glimpses from the anime as to how sadistic this creature was, episode 5 made it more overtly obvious than any other. The smile the Moss Huge gives Aisha when she realises that it was consuming the stones of the monster they defeated says a lot. It smiled in response to the fear in Aisha's eyes it wanted her to know what was about to happen it relished in the fear. When it used its tongue to grab Aisha it revelled in her pain instead of finishing her quickly. And before it died it tried to run after it died I was not left with the same feeling as when Pita died in God eater, the feeling that justice had been served. 

Being smart enough to discern between good and evil makes one subject to morality. The anime didn't do a good enough job with the Moss Huge to make me feel a satisfying sense of justice with his death.


Over All Best Episode Of The Season 

I was glued to the screen the whole episode but for some reason, the episode felt a lot longer than an over this season maybe the whole series. I think it's because o the use of flashbacks and scenery. Unlike the last episode, this episode is shot in mostly one place if you only have a little bit of time with each character per episode the time will feel shorter because a lot more is going on at once. 

Never before have so many flashbacks been used, flashbacks overall help you feel how long the characters have been on a journey. I think these two factors elongated this episode's journey.

All the flashbacks did a great job of framing the current predicament of the episode. I think it was an excellent ploy more than just a budget saver it felt like they were all meant to be there and adjusted the viewer wonderfully to the changes in the predicament without having to move the characters.



Bell The Hero  Mini Story

Harihume is the first to hear Bell proving those ears are not just for show. A nice touch is the timing of Harihume's ears with the sound of an actual Bell the argonaut noise.

And like all heroes, Bell shows up when the situation is at its worse running quite literally with hope in hand. And we all hear that too Familiar soundtrack. As Bell walks through the smoke like a saviour the hope in the destruction Lilli blushes as she fell in love all over again. Not with a boy's potential but with a man's resolution. Aisha the fallen warrior maiden gives her approval to the one she knows is worthy of the name hero. The monster prepares for battle on a round ice arena. Like the knights sat at a round table to symbolise equality and the ice that sticks this arena was made to host a one-on-one fair fight that no one walks away from the hero is truly risking his life willingly because everyone depends on him to do so. 

It all starts at a waterdrop like the dungeons Bell a match between one of the dungeons champions and the challenger with survival as the prize. 

Although bell fight alone the symbol on his back makes itself known it makes it known he fights for and who he fights with. With the calmest firebolt cast ever cast Bell prepares for the final blow perhaps it was his experience of stronger faster and faster foes that allowed Bell to keep his cool in the arena of death for the fate of himself and his Familia. Or perhaps he felt no fear of fate who fears fighting when they fight with the gods on their side?

That's when we hear that all familiar toll, the bell that symbolises the end of hours, the bell that echoes the will of the gods. Our hero's adversary seeks to retreat from the battle ordained by the deities and hosted by its master. But Welf will not let it retreat from where it came because he will not allow this monster to retreat to sully his comrade's honourable victory. And with one blow Argo vest the name of blow that now presides over all the other onlooking heroes their captain, hope, saviour and champion vanquishes the evil and celebrates victory with those he would have died for.



Danmachi Season 4 Episode 4 Review No Spoilers

 


Danmachi Season 4 Episode 4 Review No Spoilers

With Bell otherwise engaged we get to see the team without him. Aisha admitted she thought the group was done for without Bell which shows just how much of a big deal it is that a party of mostly level 2's can hold their own this deep in the dungeon. Lilli is doing an excellent job as a strategist.

Both Welf and Ouka are fighting in the vanguard a job Bell could have done himself. Mikoto was  able to pull off her new move thanks to having a good weapon that Welf made

Although I am impressed with the growth of the group and how they are handling things it feels forced. I think that once the party has reached its limits Harihume's magic Bell will come to the rescue.  I don't feel any fear for the group even with the danger because Bell will come to the rescue. I think a better job could have been done to make me fear for the group or at least some of the members.

Reading the comments on my last critiques/reviews has made me feel like I'm missing a lot.




She's not evil after all 

I was not sure about Marie despite her positive demeanour but now that her character is on display we have some confirmation that she is not evil.  Marie is in many ways the opposite of the Moss Huge. She is limited in travel, only able to traverse water, the moss huge can travel whole floors on land and through water, Marie does not enjoy violence her ability to mesmerise docile runs parallel to the Moss Huge dominating violent monsters to get them to do his bidding.





How Smart Could It Be?

Because we don't get to hear the moss's thoughts and some things may be coincidences like the monster party the anime does not directly tell us exactly how smart the Moss is.  What I found most interesting was trying to figure out just how smart the Moss Huge is and how intentional it is.  Every time it's not on screen I wonder how much of what's on the screen is it dictating is it all just part of its plan?

 

To try to figure out the Moss Huge as an anime only I am going to use what we anime only's have learned from the anime and something I learned from Jordan Peterson. It went something like this if you can't figure out what someone is up to look at the result and infer the motive.






Once again the Moss Huge's cunning is on display, its strategy is absolutely genius. It has created a win win situation for itself. Creating a pass parade has forced the team to destroy the dungeon's monster and leave behind the stones in the aftermath. This episode made sure to show its smile at the magic stones at its feet and when Welf used a fire magic sword the anime paid attention to the stones that resulted.

Not only does the Moss knows where they are at all times because of the trail of stones but by the time it reaches them after consuming stones along the way it will be even stronger so if the Pass parade does not get them he will.



In the last episode, the Bell questioned if the Moss Huge tried to cripple his ability to use magic and this episode we learned it's not vulnerable to slashing or lightning magic, only Bell's fire magic has worked so far. So it's a grass-type pokemon. For it to have tried to stop Bell would suggest that it knew it was vulnerable to fire magic and it knew that Bell could use fire magic. It must watch adventurers for a while to ascertain knowledge of skills,  strength and stones. Aisha noted in this episode that the Moss is watching them from somewhere.  Cassandra can only cast so much healing magic so magic swords break and Haruhume's magic is a trump card. I infer that the Moss Huge is learning about everything in their arsenal and forcing them to use up their strength and weapons. It won't show itself until Welf's magic fire weapons are broken.

That Moss is planning on killing everyone including Bell it wants no witnesses left alive. According to Aisha Bell is around a mid-level 4 and his agility is up there with the best. Having faced him before the Moss knows it could lose however if it consumes all those magic stones by the time Bell reaches it, it will probably be stronger than he is, pinnacle level 4 or higher.

Hopefully I will be blown away by Harihume's magic next episode.


Danmachi Season 4 Episode 3 Review No Spoilers



Danmachi Season 4 Episode 3 Review No Spoilers

By far this is the most philosophical episode in my opinion which I will elaborate on in this review. I will mainly discuss three main points Bell and his growth, Lilli and the philosophy of monsters which I think has been built up to wonderfully.

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Before we begin Is anyone else reminded of the leech seed attack from pokemon? 

With images like this at the end of the first episode in hindsight, it's very who's that pokemon.



Signs Of Bells Growth As A Leader And Adventure 
Aisha earlier in the season was clear that Bell was not just pulling people along, what Bell does as a leader is help people grow in their own strengths. Once Bell told Cassandra no one is dead yet, the group feel changed from despair to challenge ready. The intro has shown and the season has been hinting at more uses for Argonaut but what it is doing so well with Bell is showing his process. When they were fighting the Slime and Bell did not use Argonaut and firebolt to try to obliterate it perhaps a limitation was revealed. When Bell turned quickly to get to the monster he used Argonaut at his feet which was very adaptive immediately after some come combat he uses an Argonaut-less firebolt. Bell did not use Argonaut again because of the strain of rapid succession maybe he couldn't. It was the first time this season he has not combined or aimed to combine firebolt with Argonaut. Before Mikota's somersault last episode he was just about to. I think Bell is coming to the conclusion he needs to use Argonaut in a more continuous way.



After falling off the waterfall Bell immediately take a potion to recover his stamina. I'm not sure he needed to take 
what I think was probably his only potion but I like what it set up, he will probably take more and more damage on his way back up and maybe that mermaid plans on causing and or taking advantage.
Bell drew on two things when he decided to fight back against the Iguazu number one his promise to get stronger with everyone and then what he thought Ais would do. At that moment he moved from chasing Ais his original hero to becoming Ais. This is a major shift, after the assault has ended Bell looks at his hand, he's probably thinking something along the lines of I can do it, I can be like Ais. 



Lilli's Limits And Plan 
During the discussion on what to do about the Moss Huge's Leech seed attack, Lilli is against trying to take down the Moss Huge. The first reason  I think is that Lilli is afraid of losing Bell stating that the Moss Huge was a great risk after how it fought Bell. The second reason may be linked to why Lilli was the only one against defeating it has been a level one as long as she has. The levelling system in Danmachi is based on impressing the gods so basically taking a worthy risk but Lilli does not do that. Last episode Daphne mentioned how Lilli could be a strategist like Finn and everyone knows he's crazy strong. Gaining strength like Finn's would require the intelligence to access risks and the courage to take them when necessary for conquest and growth. Lilli was the only one against taking down the Moss Huge, she's not an adventurer at heart.
Lilli was outwitted by the Moss Huge which is a testament to how smart it is and also a source of guilt for Lilli. 

Lilli is the most connected to Bell she was able to sense when Bell is in danger. When Bell was dragged underwater Lilli lost all sense of reason. Lilli's plan is to send away the only other level 4 because as mentioned in this episode the Moss Huge only attacks adventures it can defeat or in this case thinks it can defeat. Lilli's plan is brilliant, I don't think it will work because of the plot I cannot see the Moss Huge dying like that. Maybe if their lucky it will be sent further down the dungeon closer to Bell but I don't see it being crushed flat as Lilli wants.




I'll Start With  A Quote


The late Cus D'amato Mike Tyson's boxing trainer has a great quote ''There are animals disguised as human beings out here, you are not sophisticated enough to decipher the two''

As it was pointed out to me in the last review the slime monster is definitely not a Xenos. Even though the slime monster kills other monsters and eats their crystal for strength the other monster do not recognise it as an enemy. Or at least I have not seen so so far. Lyd made it clear that the dungeon's monsters attack the Xenos and he should not be afraid to defend himself.
Being a middle floor monster so an estimated level 2 it had to work its way down. Is it acting intuitively, born with the knowledge of the dungeon or did it simply work out that going lower meant more powerful monsters and stones?

We know that the slime monster killed one of Luvis's companions but we do not the slime monsters or Moss Huge's'face. Later in the episode when the Moss Huge sends Bell down to the lower levels we see a visible smile.  That smile was the smile someone produces when they get what they want. I don't know if anyone has seen the Anime God Eater but if you have you will be familiar with Dayus Pita an intelligent monster like the Moss Huge that also consumed its fellow monster, it was pure evil.  Going back to us not seeing the face of the Huge Moss when it killed the adventurer has left us in the dark about whether it is acting completely logically to set a trap or whether it takes pleasure in murder. Is it capable of schadenfreude?
Everything that the Moss Huge has done draws parallels between adventurers, killing other adventurers for their wealth stealing supplies, and setting traps like with Ry's familiar, Dix was clearly a monster because of the enjoyment he took in hurting the Xenos. 
This episode did a great job of showing off the enhanced species' intelligence without letting us know just how evil it really is. At the end of the episode when the mermaid monster is clapping the whole thing is intentionally ambiguous. Is she happy because she is impressed or is she happy because she is sadistic and enjoyed seeing Bell get hurt, schadenfreude?
When I first saw episode 3 I had to think about how best to represent the very deep question this episode is asking, I think it's representing the enhanced moss and maybe Xenos or enhanced Mermaid in a way that asks a simple yet profound question, What makes a monster a monster?

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